My alcoholic mother has ruined her relationship with the asshole enabler of 20 years, by quitting her job and removing her income from the mix... He didn't take it well and she felt unloved and unwanted, so she left... and came to the only place she had, my house... now she is here... i've been trying to reduce her intake, she has no way to go out and get it, but i can't make her go cold turkey... she has definite pain issues from back problems.. she doesn't sleep, barely eats... just sips her beer all day long... i'm frustrated and have lost all my personal space. she is penniless and has no chances of support or income unless she goes back to work or gets approved for disability... anyone go through ANYTHING like this.... she is so in denial and refuses to see anything for what it really is... she would rather feel helpless than try to make a go at rebuilding her life in a constructive way... she insists that she cannot work, due to her health issues, but her issues are at least 50% caused by the alcohol...
i'm losing my mind....
gonna call the local AA group and see what help I can get...
i'm losing my mind....
gonna call the local AA group and see what help I can get...
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Re: She has Moved IN
Fri, November 9, 2007 - 9:44 AMHi, Saahira,
It sounds like you are trying to be a good daighter to your mother. You are clearly showing concern and kindness. The only problem is that I can't see anyway that the situation can continue without you becoming an enabler, which, of course, would be unhelpful to both of you--but most especially to you; your mother is used to it.
She clearly has cast herself in the victim role, which, of course, "means" that nothing is ever her fault. You say that she is in total denial. Don't let that carry over to YOU. You know the truth and I think you need to be strong and speak it. She will probably start to complain and say that you don't care about her, you don't love her. But, stay strong. Tell her that it is becayse you DO care that you are speaking the truth. Remind her that she has chosen to come into your house; she has chosen to make you responsible for her, and the only way you can do that with a clear conscience is to keep it honest. The hardest part is going to be staying strong and not giving in to her stuff. When you don't know what to say, say nothing. She can't argue with that.
Next, since you are now the one "responsible," you should probably make a plan, and tell her what it is. Give her a timeline for getting herself together to move out by a certain date. Take her to your nearest Social Security Office to file for disability. (It's best to call ahead and make an appointment.) I've been all through the process myself, because I'm half-crazy from the various results of growing ip on an abusive alcoholic household--among other things. So, please feel free to PM me about the ins and outs of the Disability process--there are a lot of them, and, as I say, I've been through it. Also, you can ask them what other benefits she might be eligible for in the meantime and how to apply for them. You might also ask about housing.
The one most important thing is that YOU aren't the one to suffer for her problems. As long as someone else takes that on, nothing will ever change. SHE is going to have to be the one accountable for possibly the first time. You need to decide what your boundaries are and then stay firm with them. If you do the above things, then you have really done all you can for her. Be very clear by what date she will have to leave. Remind her often and make it clear that it is firm, and that no one is really responsible for her but herself. She probably will not listen and jist start whining, but that isn't yours to carry. If she's still there the dat before you've said she needs to leave, help her to pack her things, ask her what plans she's made if you don't know, or she hasn't made any. Then tell her that the next day, you will drive her to where she wants to go, or to the bus station and by her a ticket. Then go home and change the locks and your phone number.
It is so, so hard to dealwith alcoholic parents. The hardest part is not falling back into the co-dependent role. That is probably going to require all your strength. But, in a way, you can look at that as a gift. You will have the opportunity tostand ip for yourself and to do the right thing. Intol she gets that the problem is hers and no one else's, there is no hope for change for her. When she starts whining and wheedling, saying your a bad daughter, that you don't love her, etc., you can tell her simply that that is the alcoholic talking and that what you are doing is to try to give her a fresh start. But don't give in to arguments. Maybe you can simply tell her that you won't argue with her.
It's a really hard thing. But, remember, take care of YOU first. When she pishes your bittons, she's being co-dependent. If you need to move the time for her to leave to a sooner date for your own sanity, do so. Please keep us posted. -
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Re: She has Moved IN
Fri, November 9, 2007 - 9:50 AMSorry for all the typos. I'm learning to touch-type the hard way. Most of the letters on my keyboard have worn off, so I'm learning by trial and error, and I don't always remember to go back and check for typos! -
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Re: She has Moved IN
Sat, February 2, 2008 - 5:10 PM"i've been trying to reduce her intake, she has no way to go out and get it, but i can't make her go cold turkey."
Have you been to Alanon? If not, this sounds like the perfect time to begin going, especially if she is not going to AA and even if she is. Alanon can be very helpful for ACOA's.
I feel for you... you are much more tolerant and have a bigger heart than i -- there is no way my mother could ever live with me - hell, I can't be with her for more than 3 hours at a time.
However - I truly hope that you don't sacrifice your health and sanity for her or you will not be good to either one of you. I also hope for you that this move-in is temporary!!! -
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update:
Wed, February 27, 2008 - 12:51 PMwell, things are what they are... it isn't horrible, but it isn't great either. She has finally gotten a real doctor and an appointment with the pain clinic. They are trying things with her medications to deal with the pain. She is still sipping the beer all day long. Last week was bad because she just doubled her intake for no good reason, like it was OK to do that. Her meds leave her out of it a lot, but I don't think they would if she wasn't washing them down with beer. She is down to 3 beers a day normally, which compared to the past, is a really good number, but I still don't think mixing it with her intense medications is a good idea at all. I have good days and bad ones, some days I tolerate her well, and some days I just try to not be home. I had a weekend free of her while I visited a sci-fi convention with friends, that was great! When I came home, I waited one more day to go pick her up, just to have my place to myself again.
I feel like I need to be supportive of her now, regardless of her habit, simply because she has nobody else, AND i cut my grandmother off completely for similar things and when she died i was faced with immense guilt. i've come to the realization that she IS, like surv mentioned, a victim in her head. she really does believe that nothing is ever her own fault, but that she is a victim of everything that goes on. Frustrating for me, who she pushed hard and long into believing that you HAVE TO accept responsibility for your own actions. She raised me to hold that standard almost above all others, and now she can't even live up to the tiniest part of it. When we do have heart to heart talks, which is rare because she doesn't want to hear what I have to say, I remind her that if she thinks I'm harsh, that it was what she taught me to believe, and that it used to be something she believed.
My friends are an incredible support network... I have been very lucky! I don't know that I would have survived this as well without them... I would be sitting in starbucks alone night after night, reading or blogging, anything to keep from going home to face her. But with them, I am able to examine my feelings, deal with them, and face them, as well as face her. I've talked to a friend from region 10 and several others, but what everything boils down to is this... if she doesn't see that she has a problem, i can't make her see it. i can't fix this for her, i can't rehab her or help her if she thinks everything is fine. on some level, i think she knows things are far from fine, but on another level, she is still blaming everything on the move, the change in her life, and her economic situation... so she is adamant that it is all that she can do...
ah well, i am just treading water, waiting on an answer from social security, she has the appt with their doctor in 2 weeks... all i can do is hope that she is approved, because if she isn't, she wont' leave, she is far too comfortable where she is.
she is looking for apartments though and making plans for what she will do when she is approved. the pain clinic seems to think they can really help her, and a neurologist is on her panel... so things are moving in the right direction... alls that is left is the waiting....
thanks so much for your kind words and support! this tribe really helps me... its hard for many others to understand.
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